# Top 10 has never been so close

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**Created:** [July 17, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/top-10-has-never-been-so-close/6165 "2023-07-17T19:46:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidpfister](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/davidpfister/32/3949_2.png) [@davidpfister](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/davidpfister)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/top-10-has-never-been-so-close/6165/1 "2023-07-17T19:46:07Z")

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I came across July ‘23 Tiobe’s index and realized that Fortran ranked #11. I know that this index does not mean much but after touching the bottom in 2020, Fortran has been on the rise continuously. That must mean something. I wanted to thank this community for the tremendous effort you do to keep this good old language alive.  
So thank you all and keep going!

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**Author:** ![CRquantum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/crquantum/32/730_2.png) [@CRquantum](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/CRquantum)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/top-10-has-never-been-so-close/6165/2 "2023-07-17T23:53:34Z")

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Welcome @davidpfister

#11 is very close to the highest position (#10) since 2001. That indeed means a lot!

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/fortran_lang/original/2X/8/81259ffd67cf25af205c61799604aec62f7b1598.png)

On the other hand, it is interesting that they did not mention Fortran in the July headline. Wish Fortran reach top 10 this year!

> ### July Headline: C++ is about to surpass C
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> A few months ago, the programming C++ language claimed position 3 of the TIOBE index (at the expense of Java). But C++ has not finished its rise. C seems to be its next victim. At the moment, the gap between the two is only 0.76%. Apart from this, there are also some other interesting moves this month. JavaScript reaches position #6, which is an all time high. Matlab, Scratch and Rust also match their all time high records at respectively positions #10, #12 and #17. Elsewhere in the TIOBE index, we see that COBOL, after a long time, re-enters the top 20, while Julia is seriously approaching it. – _Paul Jansen CEO TIOBE Software_

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**Author:** ![Walt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/walt/32/2465_2.png) [@Walt](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/Walt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/top-10-has-never-been-so-close/6165/3 "2023-07-19T15:39:45Z")

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Given the trend of new boutique languages, Fortran looks like a reliable and tested language for today’s applications.

I recommend that my son-in-law learn COBOL to get a guaranteed job for life if he wanted to enter the computer job market.
