# Organizations that use Fortran, for job seekers

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**Created:** [February 3, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331 "2024-02-03T20:34:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![txzr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@txzr](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/txzr)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/1 "2024-02-03T20:34:37Z")

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Which organizations are known to use Fortran internally?

I’m looking for a new job, and I’m particularly looking for organizations to apply to that use Fortran internally. I had a C++ job before, but I don’t like the language, and would rather take a Fortran job. I suspect the same is true for others as well.

Note that I’m not asking about _specific jobs_ here, rather _organizations that are known to use Fortran internally_. They might not advertise Fortran in a job ad, particularly given that Fortran’s not regarded as cool. For example, my current job didn’t mention Fortran in the job ad. I think most people reading this can competently use a job search engine to find job ads that mention Fortran, so that’s not what I’m looking for.

So far, I think the most useful thing for me to do is find documentation for different Fortran computational physics codes that interest me and look for jobs at those organizations. The only other general strategy I can think of is asking others, hence my question.

I’m also interested in cautionary tales or advice about different organizations that hire Fortran programmers. For example, I’d love to work at one of the DOE labs, and I’ve interviewed at multiple DOE labs, but have never received an offer. It’s not clear to me why that is. I’m a US citizen with a PhD in engineering, an active security clearance, and I work as a computational physicist, so I think on paper I’m a good candidate. At this point, I consider applying to one of the DOE labs to be a waste of time. Maybe someone here knows what’s going on. DOE labs frequently complain about their hiring and retention difficulties, but it seems to me like they’re rejecting qualified candidates.

(Since I don’t want my employer to know that I’m looking for a new job, I’m not going to name any organizations or my specific background as that might help identify me.)

Format-wise, a list of organizations and known Fortran codes would work.

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**Author:** ![sblionel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/sblionel/32/853_2.png) [@sblionel](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/sblionel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/2 "2024-02-03T20:39:21Z")

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I did just get the following unsolicited contact in LinkedIn (my profile does not say I am open to job offers):

I’m currently looking to fill an Fortran Developer position that I would love to go over with you! If this is something that looks like it might be a good fit, please send me back an updated resume and a good time to chat for a few minutes today.

Position: Fortran Developer  
Duration: 12-month contract with extensions  
Location: REMOTE with some travel

Must-Haves:  
5+ years of experience within software development  
Strong development experience with Fortran

Plusses:  
Bachelors Degree  
Local to Nebraska  
Background in manufacturing environment

Day to Day:  
We are looking for a software developer to join one of our top clients. This is a fortune 250 client within the manufacturing and aerospace industry. This person is going to be responsible for the primary maintenance, and Fortran development of their current ERP ManMan. This person will be supporting any technical issues while helping bring in new ERP systems down the road. They currently are on ManMan, working closely with Fortran and OMAR (Order Management – Accounts Receivables).

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**Author:** ![samharrison7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/samharrison7/32/3868_2.png) [@samharrison7](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/samharrison7)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/3 "2024-02-03T21:30:21Z")

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Welcome to the forum @txzr!

It might be useful to know if you’re interested in particular sectors, e.g. would you be open to industry positions, or moving out of engineering/science?

Personally, I would look at it in a different way - What organisations would give you the flexibility/autonomy to develop in a language of your choice? Maybe not all the time if you’re working on an existing codebase, but perhaps in side projects. Maybe searching for organisations that will allow you to develop/bid for your own projects is a good idea.

Generally, Fortran remains the language of choice for HPC, so organisations that use/develop models requiring HPCs might be a good place to look. Climate models, physics (as you say), etc.

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![txzr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@txzr](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/txzr)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/4 "2024-02-03T22:04:35Z")

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For me personally, I’m open to basically any sector aside from positions at universities. I had bad experiences during my PhD and plan to avoid anything at a university in the future. But I see this thread as potentially useful to people looking for non-tenure-track academic positions, so I hope people don’t limit their responses based on this.

Good suggestion to look for flexibility instead of Fortran specifically.

Good suggestion too about HPC, though I don’t think looking for HPC specifically is for me. Fortran is only one language used for HPC. I also tend and prefer to work on computational models/tools that run on more modest hardware, focus more on the physics and engineering aspects and less on things like scaling to thousands of nodes, and are used for design by engineers.

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**Author:** ![snano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@snano](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/snano)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/5 "2024-02-04T04:23:55Z")

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Here is one advertisement for software development using Fortran:

[Two Research Software Engineers in Vienna, Austria.](https://www.vasp.at/info/post/career-research-software-engineer/)

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**Author:** ![tyranids](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@tyranids](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/tyranids)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/6 "2024-02-05T00:43:06Z")

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Most big projects with new development are going to be C++, it just is what it is.

Working in Fortran almost certainly means maintaining some hellish legacy _thing_. Just put Fortran front and center on your resume and blast out applications to aerospace & defense companies, national labs, and anyone who talks about HPC in their job description.

If you want to work on projects that _benefit Fortran_, but are almost certainly not _written in_ Fortran, check out Intel, AMD, and Nvidia.

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**Author:** ![cmaapic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/cmaapic/32/659_2.png) [@cmaapic](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/cmaapic)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/7 "2024-02-05T12:02:15Z")

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Quite a wide range of companies use Fortran.

Jane Sleightholme and I  
have provided Fortran training  
to a number of companies.

Here are some of the people we’ve been  
involved in providing training for

AMEC, Warrington  
Aveva, Cambridge  
AWE (Atomic Weapons Establishment), Aldermaston  
Centre for Ecology and Hydrology, Wallingford  
DTU - Danish Technical University  
Environment Agency, Worthing  
Esso Petroleum, Fawley  
JET - Joint European Torus, Jet Labs Culham  
The Met Ofﬁce, Bracknell and Exeter  
National Nuclear Laboratory  
Natural Resources Canada, Ottawa  
Petroleum Geo Services (PGS), Houston and Weybridge  
QinetiQ, Farnborough  
RAF Waddington  
Ricardo Software  
Risk Management Solutions  
Rolls Royce, Derby  
SHMU, Slovak Hydrometeorological Institute, Bratislava, Slovakia  
University of Ulster, Jordanstown, Northern Ireland  
VCS, Germany  
Veritas DGC Ltd., Crawley  
Westland Helicopters, Yeovil.

We’ve also been approached by the UK  
Treasury and Bank of England. Quite a lot  
of econometric modelling is done in Fortran.

Good luck job hunting.

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**Author:** ![samharrison7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/samharrison7/32/3868_2.png) [@samharrison7](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/samharrison7)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/8 "2024-02-05T20:47:07Z")

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> [@cmaapic](#):
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> Centre for Ecology and Hydrology, Wallingford

I can vouch first hand that lots of us in CEH use Fortran!

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**Author:** ![vmagnin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/vmagnin/32/28_2.png) [@vmagnin](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/vmagnin)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:40am UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/9 "2024-05-14T07:40:48Z")

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> **[Careers - BayLibre](https://baylibre.com/careers/)**
>
> Careers We’re Hiring BayLibre, a Linux Foundation member, based just outside of Nice, France has 60+ employees spread over three continents and is at the heart of Open Source. With clients ranging from innovative startup to large international...

See the “Senior Compiler Engineer” job at the bottom of the page:

> BayLibre’s latest offering is OSS compiler technology. The Compiler Service Team has over 100-person years of experience developing, customizing, optimizing, and commercializing open-source-based toolchains for a wide range of use cases from embedded systems to the most demanding HPC scientific applications.  
> Looking for your next challenge? Join the experienced team responsible for delivering multi-platform toolchains to customers on a variety of interesting modern architecturs

> **Valued Skills and Experience**  
> - Open-source compiler development (LLVM and/or GCC)  
> - Knowledge of high-performance architectures such as CPUs (Arm, RISC-V, x86), GPUs (AMD & NVIDIA), DSPs, etc.  
> - C, C++ required, with **Fortran** , OpenMP, OpenACC, and/or Rust desired  
> - Parallel programming languages and runtimes  
> …

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**Author:** ![vmagnin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/vmagnin/32/28_2.png) [@vmagnin](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/vmagnin)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/10 "2024-05-14T07:45:50Z")

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They have contributed to GCC14:

> **[BayLibre’s contributions to GCC 14 - BayLibre](https://baylibre.com/baylibres-contributions-to-gcc-14/)**
>
> GCC 14 was released on May 7, 2024, extending the support for C23 (including \_BitInt), C++23 and C++26, adding first Fortran 2023 features and the experimental gccrs RUST compiler, but also extending Ada, Go and Modula-2. GCC 14 also improves the...

The names of a few developers are cited, especially Tobias Burnus concerning Fortran.

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**Author:** ![Machalot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Machalot](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/Machalot)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/11 "2024-05-15T16:56:33Z")

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Fortran is widely used in the US aerospace industry, at NASA and the defense contractors.

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**Author:** ![sblionel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/fortran-lang.discourse.group/sblionel/32/853_2.png) [@sblionel](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/sblionel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/13 "2024-11-11T16:52:40Z")

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Hi Sushil,

I think you misread my post.

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**Author:** ![Sushil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@Sushil](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/u/Sushil)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/organizations-that-use-fortran-for-job-seekers/7331/14 "2024-11-11T17:48:31Z")

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Sorry, sir. I was actually looking for a job in Fortran, and I misunderstood the details. I apologize for the inconvenience.
