# Fortran and C++

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**Created:** [February 8, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-and-c/685 "2021-02-08T20:51:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-and-c/685/8 "2021-02-10T12:06:09Z")

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I use stdc++ containers inside fortran, e.g. vector, map, list etc. Every fortran code I wrote could get near/to the performance of those containers, but was usually never faster. It would be a game changer for fortran if the fortran std lib development could replicate/improve/outperform stdc++. This is because it is exactly the absence of the house keeping stuff stdc++ provides which makes life for fortrunners sooo tedious. This obviously feeds into [the counter-intuitive rise of phyton](https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/the-counter-intuitive-rise-of-python-in-scientific-computing/469/76)

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